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I talked to my wife about what her friends suggested and what she really wants.

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 johnn (original poster new member #87521) posted at 1:20 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

After I posted here, I didn't reply right away. I needed a few days to think. I wanted to look at this from different angles instead of reacting emotionally.

Before I even spoke to my wife, I spent time reading discussions in non-monogamy communities. I wanted to understand what her friends were actually suggesting. Was this simply cheating with a nicer name, or was it something people genuinely agreed to in situations like ours? I didn't want to dismiss the idea just because we are married if I was only doing it out of fear or selfishness.

What I found surprised me. There are couples who make arrangements like this after illness or disability. For them, it isn't considered cheating because it's discussed openly, agreed upon by both partners, and exists only to help them through an impossible situation. Whether it's right or wrong is different for every marriage, but I realized this wasn't some unbelievable thing her friends had invented.

I also read a lot about women in their forties and how many experience a strong increase in sexual desire. More importantly, I read about how physical affection, intimacy, and feeling desired can be closely tied to emotional well-being. It made me think about my wife in a completely different way.

The more I thought about it, the more I realized just how much she's carrying. She's working, taking care of me, taking care of our children, running the house, managing everything, and somehow still smiling every day. I honestly don't know how she's doing it.

A few nights ago, after thinking about all of this, I asked her if we could sit down and talk. I told her everything her friends had said to me. I wasn't angry anymore.

The first thing I asked was whether she knew they had spoken to me or whether they had acted on their own.

Then I asked the question that had been sitting in my mind for days. I asked her if there was already someone else. Whether there was a man she had in mind. Whether she was having an affair or had already developed feelings for someone.

I told her I wanted the truth and that I wouldn't get angry if she was honest.She looked at me and immediately said no.

"There isn't anyone," she said. "I don't have an affair. I don't even have time for one." Then she told me what had actually happened. About a month earlier, during a girls' night out, she had completely broken down in front of her friends.

She cried about how exhausted she was from carrying everything alone. She made it very clear that she wasn't angry with me. She was angry at the situation. Gor the first time, she admitted to them how much she missed intimacy and physical closeness.

That was when her friends first brought up the idea. They said only if both of us ever agreed. She told me she didn't say yes or no that night because, after months of feeling invisible as a woman, someone had finally acknowledged that she wasn't only a wife and mother.

A week later they brought it up again.
This time they described exactly what they had later suggested to me a mature man around her age, someone from a similar social circle, completely discreet, simply an arrangement until I recovered.

They even asked whether they could show her a few men's profiles. She admitted she said yes. Not because she wanted to sleep with anyone. She said she was simply curious about what they meant.

She looked at the profiles once and then never did anything else. That was the end of it.

She had absolutely no idea her friends would come to my house and speak to me directly.
She told me if she had known, she would never have allowed them to cross that boundary. She apologized over and over.

Then I asked her something much harder.
"What do you actually want?"She didn't answer.For several minutes she just sat there quietly. Then she finally looked at me.
She said, "I'm not just a wife and a mother. I'm also a woman. I'm forty four years old, and I can't lie to you. I still have sexual needs."

She told me that after my accident, for the first three months, it was as if her body completely shut down. She didn't think about intimacy at all. But eventually those feelings came back. She tried everything she could to suppress them, especially at night, but she said it isn't something she can simply turn off forever.

Then she said something that broke my heart. "We've been together for twenty-six years. I was your girlfriend before I became your wife. I still remember what it felt like to be close to you. I miss your touch. I miss our dates. I miss our intimacy. I miss our sex life. But none of that is a reason to betray you. I took vows in good health and in bad health, and I intend to keep them."

Then she became even more honest.
She told me that because of her work she meets many men. Some are attractive.
Sometimes during group photos someone briefly places a hand on her waist.

Sometimes there's a professional hug.
Sometimes simple physical contact.
She said, "My body reacts. That's biology. I don't choose that." She admitted that when someone notices her or gives her attention, a small part of her feels alive again because she's been missing that feeling for so long.

She said she doesn't blame me. She blames the situation. She also told me there have been occasions when men have asked her to dinner. She has always refused.
Then she told me something I had never even considered.

She said, "You don't know how differently some men look at me now that they know my husband almost died and has been confined to bed after multiple surgeries. Some look at me with kindness. Others look at me like I'm suddenly available. Like I'm almost a widow. It makes me feel lonely. Sometimes it even makes me feel unsafe."

At that point she started crying. It was the first time I'd seen her cry in front of me since my accident.Oddly enough, I didn't feel guilt in that moment. I felt relief. She wasn't hiding anymore. She trusted me enough to tell me the truth. And I remember thinking how incredibly proud I was that this is the woman I married.

Then she said something made me to think
"I do want sex. I do want affection. I want someone to hold me. I want date nights again. I was curious about what life would be like if I accepted what my friends suggested. That's the truth. But even if I could have those things with another man, it would never be what I had with you. And I'm not willing to break our marriage if it hurts you."

Since that conversation, I've spent several more days thinking. I still don't think there's a perfect answer. Part of me wants nothing more than for my wife to be happy.

Another part of me knows that even imagining another man touching her hurts more than I can describe. Both of those feelings exist at the same time.

I also keep asking myself another question.
If I had died the day of my accident, would I have wanted her to spend the rest of her life alone? Of course not. I'd want her to find happiness again. The difficult part is that I'm still here.

But what kind of husband am I right now?
I can't even move around by myself.
She's taking care of me every day, and she has never once made me feel like a burden.
She's grateful I'm alive. But the truth is she got the broken version of me, and my doctors believe recovery could still take another three years.

I'm not afraid she'll secretly leave me or have an affair. I truly don't believe she would.
What scares me is something else.
I'm afraid she'll continue suffering silently because she's trying so hard to protect me.

She's always been the strongest, ferciy and protective person I know. Now I'm worried about protecting her. One part of me wants to tell her I just want her to be happy.
The other part of me knows that it would still break my heart. Ieven asked myself what I would have done if our positions had been reversed. If she had been the one lying in bed after multiple surgeries and I had been the healthy spouse. My answer was exactly the same as hers. I would have stayed.
would have kept my vows. And I think I would have felt exactly the same guilt she does now.

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Shino ( new member #86472) posted at 2:03 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

I am very sorry, still I have some stupid or silly questions.

1. Is it not possible to lay down naked in bed with your wife and use some prescriptions? And just be as close and gentle as possible?

2. How come they know those men were very discreet? Were they escorts or something?

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Shino ( new member #86472) posted at 2:10 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

I am very sorry, still I have some stupid or silly questions.

1. Is it not possible to lay down naked in bed with your wife and use some prescriptions? And just be as close and gentle as possible?

2. How come they know those men were very discreet? Were they escorts or something?

3. I don't think 10 months are a long time? This somehow disturbs me.

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WontBeFooledAgai ( member #72671) posted at 2:10 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

I only got a moment here and wasn't intending on saying anything, but this is so urgent that I just can't help myself:

Friend, do NOT open up your marriage. HORRIBLE idea. DO NOT let another man play the role of your wife's protector and lover while you are stuck playing the role of being someone she caretakes. What she wants is to see you FIGHT. Fight hard for your recovery instead and more to the point, think extra hard about what you can do to please your wife. You gotta look alive out there! That is what we men do when the chips are down right? We do the best. There has to be SOMETHING more than what you are doing now even with what little you currently have, ANYTHING--even if it is going from your 99% effort to 100%.

[This message edited by WontBeFooledAgai at 2:26 PM, Monday, July 6th]

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KitchenDepth5551 ( member #83934) posted at 2:30 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

johnn,

I'm sorry for what you and your family are going through. It sounds incredibly difficult.

It seems to me that your wife is no longer suffering in silence. She is sharing openly with you, and you are having difficult but honest conversations now. I would imagine that if you speak to her in a few days, she will say she feels relieved and unburdened by the conversation.

I still think your wife's friends are out-of-line and unhelpful. When I imagine how my three or four closest friends would act in the situation or how I would act in the situation, I picture something different. My friends would all physically be helping with my burden. They would be visiting you and caring about how you are doing too. Two of those friends were his friends well before I met him. They might urge me to get into a new physical sport or hobby and participate with me.

They would not be showing me Tinder or Ashley Madison profiles. I do understand your wife's curiosity though. It sounds like lightly indulging a small amount of fantasy. That's a slippery slope though.

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Icedover84 ( member #82901) posted at 2:56 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

I'm heartbroken for you to know this is the situation you're both in, and how hard this must be for both of you.

If you don't mind my being blunt about it, how much are you capable of? Can you walk? Can You sit on the couch? can you do any of the things people here recommend as replacement forms of intimacy? Are you able to obtain sex toys to use together? Are you able to use a penetrative toy on her romantically instead of your own genitals? We're really encouraging you to think outside of the box in order to restore that feeling of desire instead of the feeling of caretaker.

And finally, if all of those other options are completely impossible, would you be open to participating in something with another person joining you? Not just letting her go off in secret to be with someone else, but something you experience together?

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Pogre ( member #86173) posted at 3:12 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

I don't know if I can stress strongly enough how bad of an idea I think this would be if you agreed to something like this. That feeling you have when you hypothetically think of your wife with another man? It will amplify and magnify by a thousand of it actually happens. It will break you and it might break your wife with guilt. I see no good coming from it at all.

If the roles were reversed how would you feel if your buddies went behind your back and proposed this to your hurt and broken wife? Would you go along with it? Would you do it? Or would you be angry at your friends for even poking their noses into your intimate sex life?

People in ethical non monogamous relationships are a different breed, and both people are fully 100% on board with it. They don't feel the same way when they think about their spouse with another person that you or I do.

Are you unable to touch or hold your wife in any way at all whatsoever? Are toys or masturbation completely impossible? There are people who engage in phone sex and texting and find it quite satisfying.

I know this is a tough situation. But if you go this route you might as well resign yourself to the fact that your marriage is over because it will never, ever be the same again. Never. This forum is filled with betrayed spouses (and I know what you're suggesting isn't necessarily a "betrayal," but what I'm about to mention would still almost certainly be an issue) who suffer from mental images and mind movies of their spouses being intimate with another person and it is sheer torture. You can't turn it off. It will plague you and break you in a way you've never experienced before.

I think it would be a huge mistake. That's my opinion.

That said, these forums are for dealing with infidelity. I don't see infidelity here, and quite frankly I can see this being very triggering for some of us. I think you'll be much better served seeking out a forum or community that has experience or focuses on ethical non monogamy. You will find people there who are far more experienced and better equipped to answer your questions than most of us here.

Where am I going... and why am I in this handbasket?

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fournlau ( member #71803) posted at 3:13 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

From what your wife describes, it isn't simply sexual intimacy she needs, it's physical touch. I assume you are capable of that yes? Hold her hand. When she's helping you move, slide your arm around her waist, down her back, even a squeeze of her shoulder. Small gestures can be very helpful and intimate.

As others have said, there are different means for sexual intimacy besides P-in-V. Even if it's simply helping her while she masturbates ( I hope that wasn't out of bounds to say ).

Or, is it that you have zero desire, even to satisfy your W? Which is understandable as well, but would mean that any kind of physical intimacy might be beyond you right now. Again, I think keeping communication on what you are each thinking and feeling is the most important thing either way.

I wish you luck, and reiterate what others have said, it is NEVER a good idea to open up a M in this way.

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BackfromtheStorm ( member #86900) posted at 3:18 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

Cruising but I read and it is sad for both of you.

Friend there’s another option than adultery to fulfill you both even if you are suffering from physical fallout.

It’s about understanding sex in a more holistic way, it’s a discovery that will bring you closer instead of apart.

Neither of you will want to go back.

Yes unfortunately it’s adultery with a nicer coat of paint.

Self deception and narrative will never change it.

There are better options

You are welcome to send me a PM if you think I can help you. I respond when I can.

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OhItsYou ( member #84125) posted at 6:59 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

I’ll echo everyone else, do not go down that path of her screwing someone else.

I have no idea what you are physically capable of, but you can talk at least, so to be crass because there’s no other way to put it, tell her to sit on your face. grin

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Onceasailor ( new member #87546) posted at 7:49 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

johnn,

First, I'm so sorry for what has happened to you and what you're going through.

I want to gently suggest that you dig a bit. Your wife did engage with this idea to some level. She reviewed some profiles on a dating app. She thought about it instead of shutting it down immediately. Who has the membership on that app? Is it one of the friend's account or did they set up a profile for your wife? If it the friend's account, is that friend married? You have at least two problems that I can identify and I'm no expert. Your wife is under extreme stress and has thought about having an affair with someone else to relieve it. She has friends actively lobbying her to do that and also lobbying you to allow it. She's in a friend relationship with people who find this to be normal. That's a lot of pressure. They won't relent. Every time she confides in them, they will press her to have the affair. These are not friends of the marriage and I assume that you aren't going to press her to cut them off. That would also put her under further stress and probably push her to resent you. I can honestly say, if I were in your position, my wife's friends would be helping her take care of me, prepping meals, etc., not thinking up ways to get her laid.

Do you have a male friend that is not associated with these women or your wife? Someone who can help you look into this quietly, maybe interface for you with a detective to figure out where this has actually gone? You would not be the first victim of trickle truth. Also, consider a different convalescent facility. Relieve you wife of the stress of taking care of you and also have you not be 100% dependent on her if things go another way.

I know, it seems like I'm hanging crape here. It's not my intent but I am concerned for your situation. I'll add as everyone else has, do not endorse this idea. It will ruin you.

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torso1500 ( member #83345) posted at 10:44 PM on Monday, July 6th, 2026

another level of gross and unhelpful from wife's friends is the implication that the physically disabled person cannot give physical intimacy so therefore it is not even considered.

Talk to your care team about pathways and accommodation, keep talking with your wife about this. There are therapists you can both consult to work through this.

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Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 12:53 AM on Tuesday, July 7th, 2026

I don’t see any infidelity in this story.

I find several things strange…
It’s not as if you are lying paralyzed on life-support, typing this by moving your gaze along some sensory board with no hope of any improvement.
It sounds like you are making physical improvements. It’s "only" 10 months after a serious health incident. A month in hospital is long, but frankly not THAT long. Not if this was serious, paraplegic or life-support type physical damage.
Not minimizing – but in 10 months there has been advancement and improvement. You already have the prognosis of 2 years before normality (of some form) and the erectile dysfunction sounds a combination of temporary physical factors along with the advice from the doctor to avoid sex due to your present condition. Heck… I recently spent 18 months in recovery after tearing a muscle. It sucks, and there are probably some pages in the Kama Sutra beyond my ability, but it was constant improvement over that period.

I doubt that in 2 years you will be back to golf or sailing but seeing as how the doctors state 2 years to some form of normalcy, then it’s logical to assume that there is still improvement and healing going on. Two years ("only" 14 months to it…) chances are you will be walking on your own, capable of daily needs and actions and all that. Based on what you share about what your doctors said.

I’m also certain that at some stage – maybe when the femur is set, the liver functioning correctly, your spine limbered up, you have the strength to walk on a treadmill for five minutes or whatever… the issue of erectile dysfunction will be addressed. Plenty of solutions there, but maybe not at the top of your medical to-do list right now. Not any more than finding a future sexual outlet for your wife should be on the marital list right now…

I find it unnerving that after 10 months your wife’s friends only thought is that she needs to get some. I find it strange that they didn’t suggest toys, women-specific porn or some more temporary and less intrusive outlet other than risking your unity with a lover. Heck… even a paid gigolo would make more sense – seeing as it would have been a purely financial transaction rather than the risk of an emotional connection with a man that there was no intention of an emotional connection with.
Or even asked if the arm you used to type your messages wasn’t capable of some magic, or even your tongue. I find it strange that their first decision is to go behind her back and arrange a date.

I get her frustration about the great injustice put on you, her and the family. But if her friends can’t really understand that her frustration was about the future and what lies ahead, and think it was all about an itch in her… well… you know where… then her friends are seriously lacking.

I think there is a lot of drama in this thread, and emotional baggage. I would have thought that a couple that’s been together for 26 years would have a rather stabilized and routine sex-life, even where the actual sex itself wasn’t the issue, but the intimacy of the sex. To have that replaced by a need for pure sex… or to even think the intimacy can be replaced with a stranger… And for that need to have intensified so much that in only 10 months it needs an actual physical outlet, as opposed to masturbation, fantasy and imagination and/or whatever you can provide her with.

Not something a couple that met in High School – even if that isn’t a UK thing – should be dealing with. But I guess on the positive side, she’s not partying in rich men’s houses or contemplating a role in some erotic film.

"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus

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Itiswhatitis000 ( member #86274) posted at 1:37 AM on Tuesday, July 7th, 2026

I was wondering what Bigger was referring to, but I see now. Removing the post.

[This message edited by Itiswhatitis000 at 1:41 AM, Tuesday, July 7th]

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WoodThrush2 ( member #85057) posted at 1:59 AM on Tuesday, July 7th, 2026

As I mentioned before. If you can type on a phone or a computer, you can make your wife climax.

Do not open the marriage. It will destroy you and the marriage. We are not just animals friend.

Keep the vows....vows made before God.

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 johnn (original poster new member #87521) posted at 4:50 AM on Tuesday, July 7th, 2026

I am very sorry, still I have some stupid or silly questions.

1. Is it not possible to lay down naked in bed with your wife and use some prescriptions? And just be as close and gentle as possible?

2. How come they know those men were very discreet? Were they escorts or something?

Look, my body isn't in any condition where I can get naked and just lie down. But if she wants me to, I'll do it. It's only my body, nothing more.

We live in a high-society circle, so there are divorced or single men who would be open to a friends with benefits arrangement without any emotional attachment. They would be respectful toward her and our marriage. They're not trying to take my wife away they would simply give her the physical intimacy or sexual connection she wants.

Unlike escorts or random hookups, it's very different.

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 johnn (original poster new member #87521) posted at 5:05 AM on Tuesday, July 7th, 2026

I only got a moment here and wasn't intending on saying anything, but this is so urgent that I just can't help myself:

Friend, do NOT open up your marriage. HORRIBLE idea. DO NOT let another man play the role of your wife's protector and lover while you are stuck playing the role of being someone she caretakes. What she wants is to see you FIGHT. Fight hard for your recovery instead and more to the point, think extra hard about what you can do to please your wife. You gotta look alive out there! That is what we men do when the chips are down right? We do the best. There has to be SOMETHING more than what you are doing now even with what little you currently have, ANYTHING--even if it is going from your 99% effort to 100%.

I don't want to either, but I don't see any other options. Again, it would be our last option.

We've been together for the last 28 years. To be honest, we're not just attracted to each other we're soulmates. Our energy matches in a way that's hard to explain. She even told me that even if she had sex with someone else, it would never compare to what we have together.

I'll do everything I can to satisfy her, and I truly hope it works out. But my health and physical condition matter too. I have to listen to my doctors, and they've clearly told me that I shouldn't do anything related to sex for at least the next two years.

I've had three surgeries one on my spinal cord, another involving above my genital area, and a nose surgery. My body has been through a lot, and I can't just undo the last 10 months of recovery.

Thank God I can sit and walk a little with someone's help. Honestly, I feel more like her fourth child than her husband, and that's where my mental health is right now.

She is my girl, and she always will be. But I can't expect her to suffer because of me. Honestly, she could have cheated on me and never told me, but she didn't. She chose to be honest with me, and opening our marriage still isn't our first option.

I don't know what's right or wrong anymore. If she wants sex, I'd actually rather it be with another woman than another man. Honestly, in this situation, I don't think that would hurt me as much, and it would give me some peace of mind.

I feel guilty and ashamed even talking about this, but her well being matters too. My kids deserve to have a happy mom.

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NoThanksForTheMemories ( member #83278) posted at 5:41 AM on Tuesday, July 7th, 2026

I don't know what's right or wrong anymore.

Very gently, the others on this thread have been trying to explain to you what is right and wrong.

You came here asking for advice, but it sounds like the advice you got isn't what you want to hear. As others have said, there are ways to be creative in bed. I doubt that your doctors were thinking about anything other than traditional sex when they said no sex for 2 years.

Are you seeing a therapist? Maybe talk to a mental health professional or do a joint session (virtually) with a couples counselor or sex therapist and make an informed decision with your wife. This should not be something either of you decides on your own.

WS had a 3 yr EA+PA from 2020-2022, and an EA 10 years ago (different AP). Dday1 Nov 2022. Dday4 Sep 2023. False R for 2.5 months. 30 years together. Divorcing.

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Shino ( new member #86472) posted at 6:07 AM on Tuesday, July 7th, 2026

Ok, I get it. It's not possible to have some sort of intimacy right now. Let alone SEX. Let's just leave it at that.
I am nurse. And I've seen many conditions.

Still, it has been only 10 MONTHS. Ten months ago, you could have died right?

Doctors are telling you there's hope, there's light at the end of the tunnel.

And still you're here because your wife is thinking about banging random dudes.
After 10 months.
If it would have been 3-5 years. Ok, I understand.

Those "friends" are not friends to your marriage. To me, these snakes are now banned from the premises.
And your wife ist entertaining this stupid idea. That's beyond disappointing and concerning.

Dont try to be this progressive and tolerant nice guy.
Would you do that to her after 10 months? I bet you never would.

I think I would start looking for a private caregiver and distance myself a bit from this soulmate.

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 johnn (original poster new member #87521) posted at 6:17 AM on Tuesday, July 7th, 2026

I only got a moment here and wasn't intending on saying anything, but this is so urgent that I just can't help myself:

Friend, do NOT open up your marriage. HORRIBLE idea. DO NOT let another man play the role of your wife's protector and lover while you are stuck playing the role of being someone she caretakes. What she wants is to see you FIGHT. Fight hard for your recovery instead and more to the point, think extra hard about what you can do to please your wife. You gotta look alive out there! That is what we men do when the chips are down right? We do the best. There has to be SOMETHING more than what you are doing now even with what little you currently have, ANYTHING--even if it is going from your 99% effort to 100%.

I don't want to either, but I don't see any other options. Again, it would be our last option.

We've been together for the last 28 years. To be honest, we're not just attracted to each other we're soulmates. Our energy matches in a way that's hard to explain. She even told me that even if she had sex with someone else, it would never compare to what we have together.

I'll do everything I can to satisfy her, and I truly hope it works out. But my health and physical condition matter too. I have to listen to my doctors, and they've clearly told me that I shouldn't do anything related to sex for at least the next two years.

I've had three surgeries: one on my spinal cord, another involving my genital area, and a nose surgery. My body has been through a lot, and I can't just undo the last 10 months of recovery.

Thank God I can sit and walk a little with someone's help. Honestly, I feel more like her fourth child than her husband, and that's where my mental health is right now.

She is my girl, and she always will be. But I can't expect her to suffer because of me. Honestly, she could have cheated on me and never told me, but she didn't. She chose to be honest with me, and opening our marriage still isn't our first option.

I don't know what's right or wrong anymore. If she wants sex, I'd actually rather it be with another woman than another man. Honestly, in this situation, I don't think that would hurt me as much, and it would give me some peace of mind.

I feel guilty and ashamed even talking about this, but her well being matters too. My kids deserve to have a happy mom.

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